- They talk more about the dozens, and Black points out that insulting someone's mama would be a typical way of trying to win the dozens (though Black himself doesn't play).
- The Professor doesn't understand why Black lives where he does and how he can feel safe—he seems too smart for that—but Black claims (not entirely seriously) that he's just a dumb guy from Louisiana who doesn't know anything outside the Bible.
- They argue about whether the people in this ghetto can be helped or saved. White thinks it's a moral leper colony and finds it ridiculous that Jesus would want to help people in this spiritually vacant world.
- Black admits he's never stopped anyone from taking drugs, but knows good is needed here; he has to be his brother's keeper.
- Black says you can have everlasting life if you stop holding your brother's sins against him. Everlasting life, in his opinion, is something you can have in this life. It's a way of being in the world mercifully, taking your brother in your arms regardless of what he's like and trying to help him. But White won't do this, because it's not just.
- White claims he doesn't think in those terms, but then admits that there's some truth in what Black says. Then he says he has to go.
- Black keeps him around by offering him a cup of coffee. Black doesn't want him going off into the night—even though it's day, as White points out. But Black means "night" metaphorically.