- Gerry, after reading Hip's mind, says he feels ashamed for the first time and asks him how he found the ethic.
- Hip says it's not something you can look up, but a way of thinking. Gerry laments the time he lost by being vicious. The older man reminds him that he can still do great things and that he's already paid a price for what he's done. Gerry has had to feel super-loneliness, after all.
- Hip says he has to go find Janie, because maybe she believes he killed him. Gerry says perhaps Hip has killed him after all.